Sunday, August 21, 2005
Stephen Hand's Dick Durbinesque Definition of Torture
I am sure you all painfully remember this embarrassingly seditious remark from Senator Dick Durbin regarding "torture" of prisoners at Club Gitmo (aka Guantanamo Bay, Cuba):
On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold....On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.
If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Well, taking his cue from the Illinois Democrap, Stephen Hand says the following in the Musings (Oozings is more like it because this statement, like much of what he says is a real infected pus rocket) section on his website:
The Return of Torture
A society which allows the courts to dictate that the disabled may be dehydrated and starved to death or otherwise euthanized may not have to wait too very long before torture is openly fair game again. As in the days of ancient Rome... With the United States shipping prisoners to countries which specialize in the atrocity of torture (how's that for legalistic hypocrisy?), with people like Alan Dershowitz running around from television camera to television camera asking that writs of torture be made legal and respectable again, and with the light flashed unexpectedly onto Gitmo and Abu Ghraib as it was... Are we really any better than Saddam when we hide civilian deaths and kill in the name of freedom and compassion?
Pray for the victims of torture all over the world. Death is a far easier fate.
For starters, the same element in society that has been able to "dictate that the disabled may be dehydrated and starved to death or otherwise euthanized" are the same ones who are spewing the same seditious drivel that Stephen is in the interests of "peace." While I believe that President Bush, his brother Jeb, and the Republicans in congress did not do all that they could have to spare Terri Schiavo's life, they weren't adamant in supporting her court-ordered starvation like many of Stephen's anti-war buddies were.
Yes, Stephen, we ARE better than Saddam. In fact, although we are not perfect by any means, but we are a lot better than Saddam. The fact that you would even pose such a rhetorical question shows how badly your anti-Americanism has warped your mind. (I know, I know, you're not anti-American. Yeah, and O.J. is still looking for the real killers)
I would like to know how many people had their tongues ripped out in Abu Ghraib under American control? How many children were raped and murdered in front of their parents by American soldiers? All of this happened routinely under Saddam. In fact, I don't think anyone died at the hands of Americans at Abu Ghraib. The abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib by a few renegade American soldiers, which was embarrassing and grotesque, was NOT sanctioned by the Bush Administration or the Rumsfeld Defense Department. In fact, it was quickly halted when it was discovered and those responsible were punished for what they did.
Only a bigot with nothing but hatred in his heart for the country that, while not perfect by any means, has given him so much could compare putting women's panties on the heads of terrorists and making them pig pile while naked to ripping tongues out of people while still alive and raping and murdering children in front of their parents.
As far as Club Gitmo is concerned, the prisoners are treated unreasonably well there. That is why Rush Limbaugh appropriately calls it Club Gitmo. Special care is taken in the way the religious rights of prisoners are respected that include calls to prayer over loudspeakers five times a day, as per Islamic law, handling of Korans according to Islamic customs (Does anyone dispute the fact that the religious sensitivities of Americans would not be respected if the tables were turned?), and culturally-sensitive foods that include orange-glazed Chicken, fresh fruit roupee, steamed peas and mushrooms, and rice pilaf. I can almost gaurantee that the prisoners are eating much better than the troops that are guarding them.
Of course, no detainee has died at Club Gitmo. I will bet that if there is a death at Club Gitmo, it will be from hardening of the arteries from all the rich food the prisoners are eating, not torture. Many prisoners have gained weight while in detention at Club Gitmo. I can just see it now: the ACLU (Anti-American Criminally Leftist Union) will file lawsuits holding the Bush Administration and Pentagon responsible for prisoners' problems with obesity. And I'm sure Mr. Hand will be more than happy to place his skills as an attorney (or paralegal, or whatever the hell his legal background is) at the service of the ACLU in helping write the legal briefs.
What Stephen continues to overlook here is the fact that those detained at Club Gitmo are TERRORISTS!!! And these TERRORISTS would not hesitate in cutting an innocent American's head off, including Mr. Hand's, if given the chance. It seems that Stephen is not at all alarmed at the prospect of having his head cut off. This is entirely understandable. Given the thinking manifested in his insane rantings over the last couple of years, I wouldn't want his head on my shoulders either.
On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold....On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.
If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Well, taking his cue from the Illinois Democrap, Stephen Hand says the following in the Musings (Oozings is more like it because this statement, like much of what he says is a real infected pus rocket) section on his website:
The Return of Torture
A society which allows the courts to dictate that the disabled may be dehydrated and starved to death or otherwise euthanized may not have to wait too very long before torture is openly fair game again. As in the days of ancient Rome... With the United States shipping prisoners to countries which specialize in the atrocity of torture (how's that for legalistic hypocrisy?), with people like Alan Dershowitz running around from television camera to television camera asking that writs of torture be made legal and respectable again, and with the light flashed unexpectedly onto Gitmo and Abu Ghraib as it was... Are we really any better than Saddam when we hide civilian deaths and kill in the name of freedom and compassion?
Pray for the victims of torture all over the world. Death is a far easier fate.
For starters, the same element in society that has been able to "dictate that the disabled may be dehydrated and starved to death or otherwise euthanized" are the same ones who are spewing the same seditious drivel that Stephen is in the interests of "peace." While I believe that President Bush, his brother Jeb, and the Republicans in congress did not do all that they could have to spare Terri Schiavo's life, they weren't adamant in supporting her court-ordered starvation like many of Stephen's anti-war buddies were.
Yes, Stephen, we ARE better than Saddam. In fact, although we are not perfect by any means, but we are a lot better than Saddam. The fact that you would even pose such a rhetorical question shows how badly your anti-Americanism has warped your mind. (I know, I know, you're not anti-American. Yeah, and O.J. is still looking for the real killers)
I would like to know how many people had their tongues ripped out in Abu Ghraib under American control? How many children were raped and murdered in front of their parents by American soldiers? All of this happened routinely under Saddam. In fact, I don't think anyone died at the hands of Americans at Abu Ghraib. The abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib by a few renegade American soldiers, which was embarrassing and grotesque, was NOT sanctioned by the Bush Administration or the Rumsfeld Defense Department. In fact, it was quickly halted when it was discovered and those responsible were punished for what they did.
Only a bigot with nothing but hatred in his heart for the country that, while not perfect by any means, has given him so much could compare putting women's panties on the heads of terrorists and making them pig pile while naked to ripping tongues out of people while still alive and raping and murdering children in front of their parents.
As far as Club Gitmo is concerned, the prisoners are treated unreasonably well there. That is why Rush Limbaugh appropriately calls it Club Gitmo. Special care is taken in the way the religious rights of prisoners are respected that include calls to prayer over loudspeakers five times a day, as per Islamic law, handling of Korans according to Islamic customs (Does anyone dispute the fact that the religious sensitivities of Americans would not be respected if the tables were turned?), and culturally-sensitive foods that include orange-glazed Chicken, fresh fruit roupee, steamed peas and mushrooms, and rice pilaf. I can almost gaurantee that the prisoners are eating much better than the troops that are guarding them.
Of course, no detainee has died at Club Gitmo. I will bet that if there is a death at Club Gitmo, it will be from hardening of the arteries from all the rich food the prisoners are eating, not torture. Many prisoners have gained weight while in detention at Club Gitmo. I can just see it now: the ACLU (Anti-American Criminally Leftist Union) will file lawsuits holding the Bush Administration and Pentagon responsible for prisoners' problems with obesity. And I'm sure Mr. Hand will be more than happy to place his skills as an attorney (or paralegal, or whatever the hell his legal background is) at the service of the ACLU in helping write the legal briefs.
What Stephen continues to overlook here is the fact that those detained at Club Gitmo are TERRORISTS!!! And these TERRORISTS would not hesitate in cutting an innocent American's head off, including Mr. Hand's, if given the chance. It seems that Stephen is not at all alarmed at the prospect of having his head cut off. This is entirely understandable. Given the thinking manifested in his insane rantings over the last couple of years, I wouldn't want his head on my shoulders either.
